
Wednesday, November 14, 2012
It was 1971 when President Richard Nixon declared a "war on drugs." $2.5 trillion dollars later, drug use is half of what it was 30 years ago, and thousands of offenders are successfully diverted to treatment instead of jail. And yet, 22 million Americans-9% of the population-still uses illegal drugs, and with the highest incarceration rate in the world, we continue to fill our prisons with drug offenders. Decimated families and communities are left in the wake. Is it time to legalize drugs or is this a war that we're winning?
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Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law Center
Paul Butler is a leading criminal law scholar and current Law Professor at Georgetown University Law Center. He served as a Federal Prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice, where his specialty was public corruption. While at the Department of Justice, Professor Butler also served as a special assistant U.S. attorney, prosecuting drug and gun cases. Butler provides legal commentary for CNN, NPR, and the Fox News Network. He has been featured on 60 Minutes and profiled in the Washington Post. He has written for the Post, the Boston Globe, and the Los Angeles Times and is the author of Let’s Get Free: A Hip-Hop Theory of Justice (2009).
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Editor in Chief of Reason.tv and Reason.com
Nick Gillespie is editor in chief of Reason.com and ReasonTV, the online platforms of Reason, the libertarian magazine of "Free Minds and Free Markets." Gillespie's work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Post, Slate, Salon, Time.com, Marketplace, and numerous other publications. As one of America’s “foremost libertarians,” Gillespie is also a frequent commentator on radio and television networks such as National Public Radio, CNBC, CNN, C-SPAN, Fox Business, Fox News Channel, MSNBC, and PBS.
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Former Administrator, Drug Enforcement Administration
Asa Hutchinson is CEO of Hutchinson Group, a homeland security consulting firm, and practices law in Northwest Arkansas. Hutchinson was the first Under Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. In that capacity, he was responsible for border and transportation security. He is a three time Member of Congress from Arkansas serving from 1997-2001. Following his third term reelection, Hutchinson was appointed by President George W. Bush as Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). He is also an adjunct professor at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock William H. Bowmen School of Law teaching National Security Law.
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Dietrich Weismann Fellow, Manhattan Institute
Theodore Dalrymple is a retired prison doctor and psychiatrist, who most recently practiced in a British inner city hospital and prison. He is the Dietrich Weismann Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal, and a contributor to the London Spectator, The New Criterion, and other leading magazines and newspapers. In 2011, Dalrymple received the Freedom Prize from the Flemish think tank Libera!.
Learn more56% voted the same way in BOTH pre- and post-debate votes (35% voted FOR twice, 14% voted AGAINST twice, 7% voted UNDECIDED twice). 44% changed their mind (6% voted FOR then changed to AGAINST, 4% voted FOR then changed to UNDECIDED, 6% voted AGAINST then changed to FOR, 2% voted AGAINST then changed to UNDECIDED, 16% voted UNDECIDED then changed to FOR, 10% voted UNDECIDED then changed to AGAINST) | Breakdown Graphic


I totally agree the question was way too broad. If the money being spent on this unwinnable war on drugs was instead put into education the money would have been well spent. Also if the government taxed the drugs as they do all other drugs from booze to RX drugs it were sure help the deficit.
While I agree that marijuana is different from other drugs in that it is far safer than most of them, the real problem is that people focus on the drugs when discussing prohibition and the drugs are not the problem; the problem is prohibition itself.
It is the law that does the damage by interfering in peoples' lives and putting the general community under serious pressure to conform to ideals a lot of people just can't live up to.
The law also takes access to law from people and it puts a huge flowing river of money outside the legitimate economy to be managed by the most ruthless people on the planet.
Prohibition forces corruption, criminality, violence, war and poverty on the world.
Prohibition is a crime against humanity.
Certainly not as good of a debate as I had hoped. It was actually limited because of the broad motion "legalize ALL drugs" . So one side would sight something like marijuana and then the other side would site something like meth. It still was interesting, but the topic really should have included specific drugs or just marijuana since that is really what is on peoples mind.
Conjecture, Theory, Statistics.... There is only one way to find out whether or not legalizing drugs will be a good/bad thing. TRY IT! Run an experiment, evaluate the results, and you will know. : )
I'm surprised Mr. Gillespie implied that children raised in households where drugs are commonly and responsibly used will be less likely to abuse drugs than children raised in households where drugs are not used or condoned. In my experience, peers who regularly got drunk did not come from homes where the parents were teetotalers, but rather from homes where it was accepted or even encouraged. Is his statement based on some evidence?
"But when you see your parents having a glass of wine with dinner and acting responsibly around an intoxicant, you learn a very strong lesson there that is going to be much more beneficial to you than if you grow up in a teetotaler house and then you have the unfortunate experience of going to Yale and Harvard like Paul here."
Tyler, Here is what your former boss Newt Gingrich thinks: O'Reilly: "Now, they have no drug problem in Singapore at all, number one, because they hang drug dealers -- they execute them. And number two, the market is very thin, because when they catch you using, you go away with a mandatory rehab. You go to some rehab center, which they have, which the government has built.The United States does not have the stomach for that. We don't have the stomach for that, Mr. Speaker." Gingrich: "Well, I think it's time we get the stomach for that, Bill. And I think we need a program -- I would dramatically expand testing. I think we have -- and I agree with you. I would try to use rehabilitation, I'd make it mandatory. And I think we have every right as a country to demand of our citizens that they quit doing illegal things which are funding, both in Afghanistan and in Mexico and in Colombia, people who are destroying civilization." Aren't you proud to have worked for such a great freedom-loving repub? Good times.anonone
Can't believe Asa said that the first thing he would do if he knew his daughter were using would be to go after the people who sold her the drugs. This is unbelievable that his first concern is not of the child using, her personal problems or addictions that might be coming to the surface. Also, this entirely takes the blame off of his daughter. She would be responsible for her choices. Its her that will deal with the consequences (good or bad).
Furthermore, even if every drug were outlawed this type of attitude is always pointing the finger at someone else. What if she had a problem texting and driving, would he go after the phone and automobile companies too? There is an immense lack of responsibility in play here and I can't believe the opposition didn't hit this point harder.
I would like to have heard a debate on decriminalizing marijuana, or perhaps "there is no quantitative difference in alcohol and tobacco and marijuana"; but that was not the topic. Instead, the "for" side was forced to argue just as strongly for meth as they were for weed.
Still, I was happy to listen to this with my 13 year old on our way to school over the last couple days, as her class is currently studying the dangers of drug use- painted with just as broad a brush as this debate topic.
She saw the nuance in the arguments and developed some really interesting questions and comments around the subject, which are growing into a broad and open discussion in our household.
Thank you, iq2, for giving our family an excellent "jumping in" point for this very important subject.
This debate was a farce. As a resident of Colorado I didn't vote to legalize every class 1 drug known to mankind. I voted to legalize/decriminalize marijuana.
I felt there was a disconnect between the for side's argument regarding legalization reducing the amount of minorities imprisoned, and the social benefits afforded by legalization.
Is there information to suggest that legalization of drugs would enrich communities that turn to the drug trade for sustenance? What are the probabilities of legalized drugs being replaced by a different black market commodity?
I feel like the imprisonment issue requires resolution through a wider scope.
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