
Wednesday, November 14, 2012
It was 1971 when President Richard Nixon declared a "war on drugs." $2.5 trillion dollars later, drug use is half of what it was 30 years ago, and thousands of offenders are successfully diverted to treatment instead of jail. And yet, 22 million Americans-9% of the population-still uses illegal drugs, and with the highest incarceration rate in the world, we continue to fill our prisons with drug offenders. Decimated families and communities are left in the wake. Is it time to legalize drugs or is this a war that we're winning?
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Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law Center
Paul Butler is a leading criminal law scholar and current Law Professor at Georgetown University Law Center. He served as a Federal Prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice, where his specialty was public corruption. While at the Department of Justice, Professor Butler also served as a special assistant U.S. attorney, prosecuting drug and gun cases. Butler provides legal commentary for CNN, NPR, and the Fox News Network. He has been featured on 60 Minutes and profiled in the Washington Post. He has written for the Post, the Boston Globe, and the Los Angeles Times and is the author of Let’s Get Free: A Hip-Hop Theory of Justice (2009).
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Nick Gillespie is editor in chief of Reason.com and ReasonTV, the online platforms of Reason, the libertarian magazine of "Free Minds and Free Markets." Gillespie's work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Post, Slate, Salon, Time.com, Marketplace, and numerous other publications. As one of America’s “foremost libertarians,” Gillespie is also a frequent commentator on radio and television networks such as National Public Radio, CNBC, CNN, C-SPAN, Fox Business, Fox News Channel, MSNBC, and PBS.
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Asa Hutchinson is CEO of Hutchinson Group, a homeland security consulting firm, and practices law in Northwest Arkansas. Hutchinson was the first Under Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. In that capacity, he was responsible for border and transportation security. He is a three time Member of Congress from Arkansas serving from 1997-2001. Following his third term reelection, Hutchinson was appointed by President George W. Bush as Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). He is also an adjunct professor at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock William H. Bowmen School of Law teaching National Security Law.
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Theodore Dalrymple is a retired prison doctor and psychiatrist, who most recently practiced in a British inner city hospital and prison. He is the Dietrich Weismann Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal, and a contributor to the London Spectator, The New Criterion, and other leading magazines and newspapers. In 2011, Dalrymple received the Freedom Prize from the Flemish think tank Libera!.
Learn more56% voted the same way in BOTH pre- and post-debate votes (35% voted FOR twice, 14% voted AGAINST twice, 7% voted UNDECIDED twice). 44% changed their mind (6% voted FOR then changed to AGAINST, 4% voted FOR then changed to UNDECIDED, 6% voted AGAINST then changed to FOR, 2% voted AGAINST then changed to UNDECIDED, 16% voted UNDECIDED then changed to FOR, 10% voted UNDECIDED then changed to AGAINST) | Breakdown Graphic


so many seem to believe marijuana is the DEVIL! the REAL devil, folks; is ALCOHOL!! -i don't remember EVER having my head in a toilet bowl from smoking the 'satanic' weed. -and to all those saying smoking causes cancer, let us not forget that the 'evil' weed can be EATEN as well! -great debate!! too bad so many in this country are so 'smart' they are STUPID!!
i'm 61 years old can claim 40+ years of cannabis intoxication 'research' and have exhibited as well as experienced some of the STUPIDEST behavior 'on' alcohol!! -not so, being (stoned or) around "stoners", who have never annoyed me anywhere near as much as a 'blind', stupid, aggressive drunk! -lets' take some responsibility for ourselves folks, and understand our limitations!! (not to mention personal freedoms!!) -me don't deal wit no politics, me deal wit de truth!! -bob marley
I have to laugh at your voting.32% dont know?Why would anyone vote dont know?Its ridiculous.
Look,I like a smoke myself and I dont think its good for peoples health and I dont think it should be legal.If anyone actually thinks that weed is not harmfull then they are dangerously deluded.
The police in the uk are fair in that if you are descrete,they will leave you alone but most users want to shout about their habit from the rooftops about how great it is.Losers.I think it should be class A as its not the hash we used to have years ago.Its mindwarping genetically modified rubbish.
The people who want to legalize it in the public eye really are martyrs aren't they?Im sure they will be management material if it does go legal as they will make a pot of cash.Which is what its all about really isnt it?Money.One arguement thats given is the Amsterdam example?Do me a favour.Ive been there and its a sleazy pit of despair and I hope the same thing doesn't happen in the UK.
Legalizing drugs will only make criminals legal drug dealing entrepeneurs.If you dont want to be labelled a criminal,then dont smoke it.
What really puts me off the whole scene is that if you follow the supply right to the source,then some shady government agency is behind it for their black projects.
Now go home and have a smoke for me but dont try to legalize it in my name please!
Disappointing debate - neither side got to the practical core of the debate. I went in and still generally for the motion but I want the following question vetted: How would a legalization work in reality? Are all drugs to be legal with no limits? Including exotic synthetic in the future that are maliciously targeted to additive by design or by enemies.
On another note, when will a subject be debated without a racial component being interjected which benefits from the contemporary shield of political correctness. While certainly it played a role in the past, the high rates of arrest for minorities (defined here as blacks and hispanics not other minorities groups such as jews or asians) are due to the related high crime areas and associations in which these arrests are taking place. Also, the highest percent of victims of the drug associated crimes are dis-proportionally black and hispanic. Therefore, if you are Against based on your assumption that drugs are directly related to crime, and you think the illegality reduces this association (an assumption I don t share), you are benefit the targeted minority by increasing arrests in the those areas for the sake of the relatively larger number of minority victims. But instead, white guilt and Political correctness stifles real conversation again.
1. The pro side stated people quit smoking cigarettes because of health reasons. However, we know that 30% of all cancer in the US is related to smoking cigarettes. As a health care professional in the oncology setting, I can't tell you how many times I have cared for people who have lung cancer related to smoking; yet while receiving treatment, they continue to smoke.
2. Regarding the arguments for cannabis legalization. From a medical stand point, it does help decrease pain for some people and it can help decrease nausea symptoms. It has not been found to improve appetite. What is often not talked about is the very real risk of aspergillus fungal lung infection when smoked. When people have a low white blood cell count, it is almost always fatal. Cannabis can also cause people to be over agreeable and have difficulty maintaining conversations with loved ones that they will remember.
My stance is to legalize it as a tightly controlled substance, like oxycodone, for use when prescribed by a provider. If we open a pandora's box of legalization, we might have a terrible time closing it. Like with cigarettes; I wish they had never been legal. One in five deaths are related to tobacco and our country spends billions on health issues directly related to smoking cigarettes: cancer, coronary artery disease, heart disease, COPD, etc. http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/effects_cig_smoking/
The two guys representing legalizing drugs were far more knowledgable and dealt with the situation in total reality. Those against were at their best stating personal theories. Being a retired educator of over 40 years, I see no positive outcomes by criminalizing all these young people. Why is it that many people seem to find what others do so much worse than their own personal addictions to what ever it might be? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Does that sound familiar to anyone?
Wishing the panel would address the fact that the concept behind this debate is marred in the same way it would have been had it occurred during Prohibition as a debate on being for or against all alcohol.
We eventually said SOME alcohol was unwise and it was outlawed. We need to do the same here....debate marijuana separately from other drugs.
Let Theodore Dalrymple talk! You can tell he's being shoved away.
NO!
Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation,
But sin is a reproach to any people.
if we're going to have one legal drug we should have at least two to give people a choice. not everyone can or wants to drink alcohol. marijuana is much more benign. ask anyone with an alcoholic parent. in a nation of choices, give us a choice.
it was the patent medicines and the pursuit of profits off addictive drugs in the 1800s with the inclusion of cocaine (remember the real coca cola?), opium, alcohol, and even radium, that gave us the FDA
My concern in public safety, bad enough the roads are full of drunk drivers. Should the public be concerned with drugged drivers too.
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